That part worked great, we all had a great time swapping anecdotes about life in the gay and disability worlds.
I can’t remember that last time I’ve had such great mealtime conversation. Just goes to show we don’t get out enough with others!Saturday afternoons we try to play badminton at the YMCA, particularly when Cheryl visits, we lend her one of our extra wheelchairs. You’ve all read about Elizabeth's seizures/TIAs she’s experienced. When it happens at the Y, a hush falls across the gym, people stop their games, the co-ordinator rushes over and asks with anxiety in his face whether he should call for help. I calmly pull out the oxygen and apply the cool packs and say “no, she’ll be fine” while inwardly willing Elizabeth to come around. Fortunately she bounces back quickly. I’m afraid that if it happens while she’s alone they’d ban her from coming back.
Though the gym was so hot that I was soon sweating buckets (there’s an image), I didn’t really put together the heat of the gym with Elizabeth’s heat issues. Cheryl later said it was between 30-40 degrees Celsius. There was no air or breeze in case it should alter the flight of the birdie.
After about 90 minutes Elizabeth had an episode. She had a blank face at one point, and her body and brain looked like someone pushed the pause button. After a bit she sort of snapped out of it, letting us give her water and put on the oxygen and cool pack. She was determined to continue even though she was having vision problems (could only see out of one eye). Here’s where I always face a dilemma: let her stick with her determination and continue her quest despite consequences or take control and pull her out. Either way I’m kind of screwed – if she continues she’s in pain and I have to watch her writhe or hear her say ‘I could have finished the game, why did you make me stop.’ Because I have such a hard time saying no I usually let her continue - often until it is too late.
Yesterday, we tried a few more volleys but she couldn’t see out of the left eye so couldn’t return the birdies. She was also burning up and had difficulty staying upright. Deciding enough was enough Cheryl and I took her home and tried to cool her off. Plunking her in front of the small portable air conditioner, we applied a cool pack and gave her cool water to drink. It was too late – her body had been traumatized and within 30 minutes had decided to rebel. She spent the next 3 hours in the bathroom with horrible cramps. Our bathroom is not much bigger than the tiny Japanese ones we took pictures of. It has no windows and a very loud extractor fan so gets no air flow into it when the door is closed.
When Elizabeth is experiencing these cramps she sounds so tortured – because she is. I can imagine what it must be like for an expectant father while his wife is in the midst of labour. He sees the tremendous pain she’s experiencing, hears her cries and there’s nothing he can do to take the pain away. He can give her some cool water to drink and hold her hand but that’s about it. With Elizabeth there’s also seeking the balance between showing I care, trying to help and also giving her the privacy she needs.
She was overheating. I gave her lots of cold water and an iced frappachino from Starbucks to cool her down from the inside. We took off most of her clothing and I applied a damp towel to her back. She almost hyperventilated. As soon as I heard her gasp I had a flashback to the time she had to pour cold water over me in a Turkish bath after I had passed out. I couldn’t breathe from the shock of it and I could see she was having the same problem.
Earlier this week she got mad at me because I’d apply a cool pack from the freezer to her chest or back of the neck each and every evening. “Do you think it’s fun having ice applied to your body every day?” she asked. “Do you think I enjoy freezing?” “Why is everyone so quick to do it?” “Have you ever had cool packs directly applied to your chest for hours at a time?” “Why don’t you self-apply some for a few hours and come back and tell me how it feels!” (I thought about it, but I didn’t do it).
As I applied the cool packs or towels I felt like such a meanie because I was doing something to her which she hated. I know it was necessary to do, but I still felt bad doing it. That didn’t stop me from zippering her entire torso into the special cold vest I had been storing, with water filled gel in the fridge.
I moved the A/C to the bedroom and cooled the room off. Around 8pm she finally emerged and went for a nap, around 2 hours behind schedule. She had difficulty getting to sleep and was hallucinating.
Things did not get better after the nap. I was so focused on getting us supper before it got even later that I didn’t have time right away to help Elizabeth with her packages she wanted to mail like I had earlier promised I would.
When Elizabeth is hot, particularly when she has been woken from heat her senses were on high alert, and me putting on the oven to start cooking and Cheryl reading, and shifting on the couch were too much: it was like constantly petting a cat the wrong direction. She put on her MP3 player and worked away. When the meal was ready she didn’t want to eat with Cheryl and I because we’d be too noisy. She left the room and went to the hot study and worked some more. When I later went to offer help, she was in too much pain and I had been too busy doing my thing for us to seem to be able to communicate. I gave up and decided to leave her alone, checking periodically.
Around midnight she got dressed and decided to go for a roll. I hate it when she decides to go for rolls late at night and refuses any company. It’s not a rational thing to do. Does she just want the exercise, does she just need the cool air to cool her down, does she just want some peace, or does she want to run away and never come back. Tomorrow is the anniversary of her roll to Moss Rock and I suspected she might going that way. It was obvious that she was in pain, and had been for a long time and I didn’t know how much this was about just getting out, out from where all the pain was.
In our earlier years together I’d block the doorway and not let her out or I’d finally get so pissed at her I’d stomp away and say “Fine, be that way…” I know, so mature. Years have passed and while I still haven’t figured out the best way to handle it, I try not to be too controlling. More often than not, I let her know I’d go out and look for her if she wasn’t back in an hour. Such was the case last night. An hour passed and I told Cheryl I needed to go out and look for her while she waited by the phone (she’d call me if the police called and I could call her if I found her). It sure is nice having someone there to share the fear with.
I only got a few blocks from home when I saw an ambulance at a street corner with lights flashing. Glistening in the headlights I saw some spokes. OMG, I thought, she’s in the ambulance again. I soon saw the spokes belonged to a bicycle not a wheelchair but I parked the van and started heading over to the ambulance to make sure. Did I mention that when Elizabeth not rational that I often become irrational too?
About 20 feet away I see Elizabeth wheeling across the street from the opposite direction and I feel relief that she’s still upright and not in some ambulance or lying on the ground somewhere. She doesn’t want to talk with me or let me walk beside her on the way home. The furthest I can go is about a block. She has her wall of silence where I think it’s too much effort to interact with the world. Of course, I often take it personally and think she’s mad at me. Sometimes I’m right.
Elizabeth: I went for a wheel because I didn’t feel like I was part of our home anymore. It seemed that Linda and Cheryl were clicking together and were fine by themselves. I had things I needed to do and no one was talking to each other, everyone either focused on their task (Linda obsessed on dinner, me on finishing packages to be posted), or just didn’t talk about the tension. I was in so much pain from the heat and felt that I was a big joke to the others, when this was something important to me to do. So I decided to roll and the temp outside was cool, a physical relief. Of course, I did not realize how exhausted I was and I decided to roll to the Cemetery and back (Hey, I had no money, at it was past midnight, how do I run away from home?). I did arrive to find that while there was a full moon, Ross Bay Cemetery has NO lights. Talk about freaky. I wheeled in a ways and took some pictures of the tombs.
I tried to use a night long exposure but it was so pitch black they didn’t turn out. Only one, showing the moon coming through the trees.
So I did a couple flash pictures
and then wheeled out, scaring a person standing opposite the cemetery smoking at 1:10 am with a startled shudder. What, having someone wearing black wheel out of the darkness of a cemetery at 1:00 am is odd? I guess so. I wheeled in the street on the way back because I was really, really tired and not sure if I could make it back by Linda’s deadline. I thought I still had 10 minutes when she drove past me. Sigh. I realized in the graveyard that while after two days of heat pain and problems, I may not want to live, but I wasn’t ready to die. Well, that was at 1:30.Linda: I drove back and walked beside her because some guy was following her, because she was clearly in distress. But try convincing Elizabeth of that. It is all shaken heads, pushed out bottom lips and determined to push herself, even if she can’t sit up and her torso is lying on her legs, using one eye to stare at the cement to navigate. She finally made it back home around 1:40 am only to have a repeat of the cramps. Back to the bathroom for another hour.
She’s still not talking and from the bathroom, heat and cramps all she can hear is Cheryl and I talking to each other in the living room to keep ourselves awake (even though Elizabeth repeatedly told us to go to bed…like we were going to do that! Good thing there is only ONE stubborn person in this relationship right?). There’s no way we’re going to bed while she’s still up. She’s feeling alone, and upset, and unwell. At times like this it is just a race between her strength and the bowels, plus she was peeing about twice what she had drunk. She said, the last she remembered was 2:42. I check on her periodically and came to check on her at 3:00. She was passed out on the bathroom floor, naked.
“Don’t panic.” I tell myself. I put the cooling vest on her and she immediately goes into shock: her whole body shaking uncontrollably even though she drifted in and out of semi-consciousness. Cheryl helped me roll her onto a bath sheet and I’m able to drag her on the towel into the bedroom and out of the bathroom which was suffocatingly hot. On with the oxygen as her fingers had turned purple. Cheryl pulled out her stethoscope and checked the heartrate which was beating so fast she couldn’t get a reading. Cheryl said she had passed Heat Exhaustion and gone into Heat Stroke. Her body was still in shock and was shaking. I don’t know how much time passed as I was too concerned to look at the time but eventually Elizabeth started coming round. When she could finally move an arm, or hand she finger-spelled that she was in ‘shock’ and her lower body was in ‘spasms’. Cheryl still could barely discern between the heartbeats, it was beating so fast and her blood pressure was 168/148. She finger-spelled that she had been bleeding out of her nose. Then she started groping for something. Finally we understand that….she wants to brush her teeth?
“Elizabeth just SIT STILL!” I wanted to scream at her (maybe I did?), because she couldn’t seem to understand the condition she was in, and that the last thing she needed was to return to the sauna of the bathroom. Plus, I had dragged her bodily OUT of there, how was she going to get there? She seemed to think she could crawl there. I just wanted to put her to bed, forget the teeth. She fought getting on the bed, and using my body tried to walk to the bathroom so I shoved her onto the bed, leaving her sprawled and shouted, “Can’t you just wait!”
We finally got her on the walker and into the bathroom to brush her teeth and what happens? She sees herself in the mirror and tries to start brushing her hair. I was NOT amused, vanity can go too far sometimes. Cheryl and I got her from there into bed.
Once she got into bed more pain started, extreme pain. She said her bones were hurting – a comment she’s made the last few nights. Her spine and back are causing the most pain. I give her pain pills, muscle relaxants and valium. I have another fear – is this the new reality she’s going to face every night from now on? I don’t voice my concerns in hopes she hasn’t thought of that. But that’s another subject for another day.
Well, except that now she WAS talking she just kept saying the same thing, “Kill me……kill me…….kill me.” Then as the pain grew, she went into a spasm which Cheryl called, “Elizabeth turning herself inside out” or “Elizabeth turning into a crab.” She was in spasm several inches off the mattress, her back arched from her head to her pelvis with hands curled as she kept screaming, “CUT THE SPINE! CUT THE SPINE!” Even touching her spine caused a scream and then, between “Cut the spine” she would indicate we should go to sleep! That did not seem an option right then. Finally between holding her and the pain meds, she settled down around 4:00 am, still thinking it was 2:40 ish, the last time she looked at her watch.
I’m happy to report today was a better day for Elizabeth. The temperature cooled several degrees, we talked about our feeling of yesterday and why we did what we did. Seeing thing from each others view and NOT being in pain helped a lot. So we were all friends again and Cheryl and I chilled out with Elizabeth talking and watching Rebus (season 4 from BBC) till Cheryl left. Here’s hoping Monday will be a good day, too (and cool weather!).
I didn’t expect my first “weekend blogging” to be quite so….eventful. But this was the worst episode of heat exhaustion I have ever seen Elizabeth have, and this is only May. Cheryl had a great line for the “kill me” which was something like, “We’ll discuss that another time.” It was a terrible night for Elizabeth, and I fear foreshadows a long and difficult summer ahead.



28 comments:
glad things are better today. Linda, I think it is brave of you to tell the story from your side - to express how scary & difficult it is. It's hard for me to read about elizabeth going through all that pain - you have to be there, see & hear it, try to help while feeling helpless. I/ve dealt with a lot pain & used to get really bad abdominal cramps sometimes (I suspect it was episodes of food poisoning due to my immune deficiency) and it was amongst the worst kind of pain. dennis was always very upset by these episodes because he could tell it was bad. He was always be so relieved & happy to find me sleeping afterwards because he knew if I could sleep the worst of the pain was gone.
And it's different to hear about elizabeth's determination (stubborness) from your side. Two sides to the same coin. I become less than rational when I'm starting a bad Lupus flare, especially when I've got a fever 7 infection starting too.
Elizabeth - I understand about wanting to get out & go somewhere on your own. Sometimes when I'm in a bad way (like i mentioned above0, especially when I've been fighting with dennis - I take the car keys & go out. Granted, I have nowhere to go, and it's usually at night, & I wouldn't have the strength to go anywhere - so I just drive around the neihborhood for 5 or 10 minutes. Once i drove to the store, but just parked there for a few minutes - realized i didn't have the energy to go in, so went home again. You made quite a journey to go all the way to the (dark) cemetary. But i hope you don't do that again.
Well my typing is failing _ i can't get the capitals to work & keep spelling things wrong. All of which tells me it's time to stop & say goodnight.
Sharon
Dreadful, for both of you. And for Cheryl. I've dealt with MD when a seizure is triggering a self-destructive burst of her natural stubborness. It's hell on all concerned.
Can you use a medical thermometer (like this one at http://www.tiptemp.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=19025) so you will know that it is dangerous to keep pushing yourself?
An incredibly crappy night. A well written blog Linda.
I found the idea that me and my husband were fighting my illness together helped me in the worst times. He feels useless. I let him know that the smallest of things (just knowing he is there sometimes) makes a huge difference.
Love powerful drug.
Helpless, that's all I feel. What a shitty day for the both of you. I'd also like to admit that I was amused that Elizabeth was pissed off about the fluff piece. But she's right, this was so much, um, real. In a really painful way of course. I hope Victoria Day is kind to you both.
Hell Night indeed! Heat stroke and cramping and spasms and late nights = way too much. Thank you for writing a difficult and honest entry, Linda.
You may have tried this, but one way to reduce the shock of a cold pack is to soak a towel (even a thin dish-towel) in hot water and wrap the pack in it immediately before applying. That way the cold hits a little more gradually, over 10-30 seconds instead of all at once.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the early heat-wave means the summer's expending itself early rather than a portent.
Elizabeth, I can completely understand the need to be alone, particularly when in pain or feeling left out. Walking alone at night is one of my favorite outlets - though I've never gone to a cemetary. Then again, I'm not a goth girl. I'm sorry you had such a rotten night and wish (though surely not half as much as Linda) that there were something I could do to make it easier. Hugs.
Linda: I confess that I was scared too and am very concerned about how Elizabeth is going to do as the heat increases. It was an education seeing Elizabeth at such a low point and I now have a much better understanding of what she means when she describes her pain and her sensory hyper-sensitivity. I would rather not have gotten the education. Not because I don't want to know or understand but because I hated seeing Elizabeth in such pain knowing I had played a part in getting her to that point and that I was helpless to ease it.
I finally knew we were all going to get through the night when Elizabeth started laughing after a couple of comments I made. At one point when I couldn't tell if she was breathing I told her "You are just holding out so I have to start mouth to mouth aren't you?" She took a breath and laughed.
Elizabeth: I failed as Oneechan and I am sorry. I must remember that even though the "inside joke" is shared by all of us, you can't access the memory. so it seems like Linda and I have shut you out. I really hated seeing you in such pain, knowing there was little that could be done to ease it.
I am in awe of the strength and the love between you and Linda.
Linda -- Regarding brushing of teeth and hair, I'd wager the reason is that those are still things she can do, even if when she wants to do them isn't logical. It's hard to explain. When you have these body issues where control of certain functions are no longer yours, you keep doing the activities you can at whatever time you can. Does that make sense?
Oh, and a physiology-based comment, if I may -- no drinks with caffeine should be given to someone in heat exhaustion or dehydration -- especially don't give coffee as its content is quite high. Caffeine actually causes your body to dump water, i.e., it's a diuretic. In fact, I think it would be good for Elizabeth to stick to caffeine-free drinks. Caffeine free, not decaffeinated because the latter still contains some caffeine.
Elizabeth -- Dammit! Would you please start listening to Linda and Cheryl? Going outside because it's cooler I understand, but pushing your wheelchair how many blocks when you're already in heat exhaustion? Not your brightest decision, dear.
Wow. That was a spectacularly bad night. Hearing it from your end gave me a more three dimensional idea of what you and Beth (and Cheryl) go through. Thank you both for sharing it. Wish I could help.
I hope today will be good one for you. Glad you had a good time at the pub!
I hope things go better today, you two. I loved the joint post; giving us both oints of view is absolutely brilliant.
But you both need to remember to communicate. Beth, please remember that your feelings of being an outcast may be a symptom of your level of consciousness. if you move away from the party then feel left out, that's a problem. Can you recognize when you're not being rational? Could you admit it to Linda?
Linda, you are Beth's rock; remember that you may have to choose the lesser of two evils at times; and keeping her in less pain might be the better solution. Tough love works!
I'm one of those annoying people who loves the heat. But for you two, I pray for less heat in the sun, and cool breezes.
Cheers, hugs and sympathetic tears of frustration to and for both of you,
Neil
You might not like what I'm about to say, but I am going to say this because I am care about both of you....
Elizabeth, I understand your need for space - to just be 'you' - when you feel like so many other people have more control over your life than you that it feels like your whole identity is tied to other people. And I acknowledge the need to keep your temperature down (having a spinal cord injury, I'm not good an controlling my body temperature in the heat myself, but because it's not to the extent to which you suffer, I would not presume to stay I 'understand').
But you need to find a way to do what you need to do which doesn't leave the person who loves you worried sick at an ungodly hour of the morning.
I know I've had 34 years' more practice than you at accommodating my disability and my family, but for both your sakes, it's something you need to figure out as well - for Linda's health and your own.
The hardest thing to accept is that there are things you can't do any more, and the 'kick back' you'll get the next day for certain activities just isn't worth pushing your luck any more.
You have a certain amount of spoons to play with and you have to learn to re-arrange your life and the way you expend your energy accordingly. And I do understand what a monumental pisser this is, especially when you weren't expecting to have to make decisions like that and so couldn't prepare to 'lose a bit of yourself'. Not walking and never playing my guitar again is not something I am thrilled about but it needs to be that way so I can give more energy to the things I can do. I'm in the process of selling my guitars right now, and quite frankly it's breaking my heart because it means I have to let go of the person I was going to be, and learn how to be someone new.
On a purely practical level, you will learn to spot the signs you're going 'wonky' before it gets too far. My little indicators are 'sore hair' and a tendency to open my mouth and have a sentence come out backwards. That's my cue to go and sit somewhere quite and listen to the birds sign until it passes.
If either of you feel you need to chat to someone who is not directly involved - weather it's a conversation or just a 'venting session' you're after, you have my email address (Elizabeth has it) and you're always welcome to drop me a line.
Lots of love xxx
I'm wishing for cooler days for you, with much less pain!
I understand the need to be by yourself, to get out by yourself--is there some way you can experience that closer to home and still retain that sense of independence?
Wow, a tough scary night indeed. I am in awe of some of the great practical, medical advise people are sharing with you guys.
The whole "leaving" thing is something I can so relate to. In the early years of relationship, when Collette and I "fought" instead of argued, her first instinct was to "leave"; for her, this meant getting out the house, away from me, away from the argument and just end the situation for a time. For me it meant leave ... like, not come back. It terrified me and yes, I did the old doorway block as well. All that did was esculate things. I have eventually learned that "I am leaving" means "I just need a break" and it benefits both of us. And Collette has learned that her barging out on foot in the middle of the night in a big city sets off alarms in me that are never going away. Instincts are difficult things to deal with and in the middle of an argument or if a person is not healthy enough to be rational, they should not always be followed. The talking afterwards is the best thing. I'm glad you guys did that. And the remembering, and the understanding, the next time is even more important. Cause its going to happen. Its all in how its dealt with.
Beth and Linda: HUGS!!!
I think it is very brave of both of you that Linda is trying out blogging. Brave for you, Beth, because I know how you must hate and cringe at relinquishing any creative control here, and brave for Linda to step into a space where we are all already seeing your lives through Beth's eyes.
Do the two of you check the PO box in WA that is the return address on the postcard you sent me? I have been wondering if that's an address I could send a letter to.
Linda here...
sharonmv: You and Dennis both have my sympathies. I know it's hard being a helpless caregiver but it's even harder being the person in pain. I'm often in awe of how much pain Elizabeth can take.
yanub: Sometimes the pain is too unbearable that I think it's only normal to be irrational and do things you normally wouldn't do. I was telling Elizabeth last night that both Cheryl and I wished we could take her pain on for a little while to give her a break. She said even if she could, she wouldn't because she wouldn't want to give it to someone she loves.
rachelcreative: I agree, travelling the road together gives comfort and courage to both of us. And Elizabeth says the same thing, the little things I do make a difference.
tornwordo: We're lying low today - and thankfully the temperature has gone down considerably. Don't need the AC as much.
I wasn't amused... I was like, what's wrong with it!!! I just wanted to give an introduction to why I was blogging. But when she explained why she was upset I could understand where she was coming from.
perpetual beginner: Cheryl gave me similar advice yesterday and that makes a lot of sense. Should decrease the shock if I start with a lukewarm or hot towel before applying the cold. Ease her in to it. It will make us both feel better.
Cheryl: I really appreciated your comments. It's reassuring to know I wasn't the only one who was a bit scared. I also completely get what you say about feeling like you've contributed to the problem. I feel like that often and sometimes I am part of the problem. But sometimes Elizabeth has weighed the risks and is willing to pay the costs in order to do what she wants to do. She's an adult who has choices. As for Saturday at badminton - while I was keeping an eye on her, I should have been monitoring her heat levels much closer. I'll definitely be paying closer attention in the future. And maybe there are days where we'll go for a movie in an air-conditioned cinema instead of sweltering in the gym.
One of the things I really love about Beth is that once she's conscious again she does her best to reassure everyone with jokes and wants them to take care of themselves. How many times did she tell us to go to bed because it was late?
Dawn: My experience with Beth's toiletry habit is that it's all practical. She has never, ever gone to bed without brushing her teeth (it's the whole fear of needles and dentists thing) and she can't sleep with her contacts in all night.
I've become quite conversant in what needs to be done when someone is suffering from heat exhaustion. I learn pretty quick when I have to. For the record, Beth only drinks one caffeine drink a day - after her nap to boost her heart rate high enough that she can function.
Lene: Oh oh, maybe two voices isn't such a good idea when Elizabeth's voice is so vivid (smile). You'll all be having nightmares soon! I promise a happier blog next time.
Neil: Why do I feel like I've just got the fatherly chiding? Communication is the most important part of our relationship and it's something we both work at. Often people have commented on how well we communicate. Yeah, there are times when we both get frustrated or pissed off but we respect each other enough to listen to each other and find a way to make things work. There's no way our relationship could have lasted this long without it.
Funny story... a few months after I had started seeing Elizabeth, her mom made the comment that we communicated better than most married couples she knew. (Her parents did marriage counselling at the time.)
Gaina: With opening sentences like that I know something bad's coming. Sounds alot like when I was a kid and my parents were going to spank me for disbehaving... 'we only do it because we love you'... I could never understand when a parent says it hurts them more than it hurts the child. Not from my perspective. Anyway... I digress.
I think I understand what you mean about giving up things you love. I find it hard to contemplate selling Elizabeth's bicycle and double bass. And the fact that we've got so much medical equipment there's not enough space for it all and some of her book collection may have to go.. I see heartbreak ahead. When her health takes so much opportunity away from her, the idea of taking away some of her posessions hurts.
Elizabeth does a lot to make sure I'm not awake at some ungodly hour. In fact, she has an overnight worker come in twice a week so that I can get an uninterrupted night's sleep. She also tells me to go to bed when it's late - I'm just stubborn enough to refuse some times. Other times I'm grateful for the blessing to sleep.
Gaina, I'm not familiar with how your condition manifests itself, but I do know that Beth's autonomic failure sneaks up on her. There are no 'wonky' clues to foreshadow. One second she'll be talking and mid-sentence she'll fold over and pass out. With heat exhaustion all of a sudden her body won't work any more. As she can't feel her own temperature she needs someone there who can do it for her.
Well. That was a craptacular end to your Saturday. I hope you've both had a better day or two. The additional air conditioner sound like an excellent idea.
(And a shared blog -- even one covering the most innocuous of topics -- takes some time to find its own rhythm and rules. My partner and I have had battles over content, audience, and punctuation. You'll work it out. )
Linda & Elizabeth,
I love the idea that both of you are writing this now. Not that you weren't enough, Elizabeth! However when you put as much of yourself into it as you do, it seems very reasonable to take the weekends off. In fact, I applaud your courage; it ain't easy to, one, admit you need a break &, two, get help from someone else.
In the months that I've been reading, I know you represent Linda's perspective here & you do it well. Of course, no human can ever really get across every single nuance of another person's experience. It's great to get Linda's view directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Can't wait for the next installment of Elizabeth. & Linda: for your first weekend on the job, you done good!
Elizabeth's parents were counselors?? Whoa!!
This must have been very difficult for both of you to write out and relive. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences.
Linda: Not a fatherly chiding; more of a distant, rather eccentric uncle giving advice where it probably isn't needed.
I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes. Reading the blog gives only a hint of how you two interact with each other. It's good to hear that you do communicate well. It's sometimes hard to KEEP communicating, though, isn't it?
Elizabeth: Linda's comment that you wouldn't wish to share your pain with Linda and Cheryl only shows us how much you love them.
Gaina: I'm not mocking your typos (they may be a sign that things are starting to go south for you), but the thought of listening to the birds sign did give me a bit of a smile and an interesting mental image.
Love to all, and hugs and encouragement for the loving Beth and Linda.
Well, first off, I've acheived a life goal ... meeting the two of you and to top it off made it onto the blog, how cool is that? Well, not cool enough for Elizabeth on a hot day, obviously. I saw first hand how well you both communicate with each other and know full well how the helper/helpee lover/lovee relationship can get all muddled up. Wonderful post today, insightful in so many ways, love you both.
Linda here...
fridawrites: Thanks, it is cooler today. What a relief!
victor kellar: Yeah, there's a big difference between arguing and fighting. We're getting better all the time with talking things out. We have a rule in our house that we never go to bed angry and we always sleep in the same room. The only exception is when one of us is contagious with a cold - she gets the living room. Come to think if it, guess I'll always be the one with the living room as hospital beds aren't as transferrable. (Smile)
Veralidaine: Yes, we still have the post office box in Port Angeles and we get our mail every few weeks. Elizabeth would absolutely love to receive some personal mail.
Heather: Thanks for letting us know we're not alone in sharing a blog. I expect there will always be some bumps, but I'm looking forward to sharing another blog entry with Elizabeth next weekend (if I haven't alienated all her friends, that is).
Neil: By alienating friends, that means you. I'm sorry, in hindsight I can see that my comment to you came accross very defensively.
Sometimes it is hard to keep communicating. But at the same time, there's nothing I want more than to break down the figurative wall and be close again. It feels great when we're like-minded again.
Lisa: Thanks Lisa. I'm proud of Elizabeth for relinquishing the reins and also for giving me second chances.
secondhandsally: Thanks. It was difficult to write - mostly because I don't share my feelings that easily - and I wanted to respect Elizabeth's. She has always been careful when she talks about me - never putting me in a bad light - I want to give her the same respect.
dave: Wow, we were a life goal, huh? Very cool. Hope you're week upisland goes well.
Honestly I want to be able to offer some advice or say anything at all that could be useful and I just can't. I can only stand in awe at the love and the communication and wish like hell it could be different.
Dear heavens, Linda, I'm not insulted; and you can't get rid of me that easily! :)
No, your first reply left me thinking that I was suggesting the blindingly obvious, and I was only apologizing for stating what turns out not to need stating. I didn't read any defensiveness into your reply.
Aren't misunderstandings wonderful? They cause so much more communication! :)
Linda, I'd say you've done a fine job on your first blogging attempt, and your second. I appreciate the two points of view of the same evening; it shows how much you both care about each other.
I truly look forward to reading your next joint blog, and I look forward to Beth feeling better, thinking rationally, and reporting that she hugged you, Linda, on my behalf.
Now I'm jealous of Dave and Joe, 'cause they've met you two in person.
Manymany hugs!
Beth,
I sent a letter to you. Not sure how long it will take and in no hurry knowing you must cross the border to get it, but I thought you would like the heads up that you can expect something to the PO box. It is in the mailbox and will go out with tomorrow's mail.
reading about Elizabeth going down to the cemetery at midnight reminded me so much of "BtVS" that I was snickering...
I'm glad the weekend turned out well, even with the pain. And the descriptions seemed, I don't know, almost more complete, then when Elizabeth writes. Not that she glosses over anything, but seeing it from a different point of view shows it differently.
Did that make sense?
I hope things get better and do not continue at a similar pace to this. :(
It's great that you got to meet Dave and his partner, though. Dave's awesome (or so his blogging implies!) and I'm envious.
Here's hoping for more cool days than warm.
We never go to bed angry, either! Of course, that's led to a few very late nights!
Sigh. You are both going through so much. It is nice to read your stories here Linda.
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